DKC Atlas Forum

[VideoViking]

Do you plan on adding animal buddies? That above water level demo was calling out for Enguarde.

[doomero]

Do you plan on adding animal buddies? That above water level demo was calling out for Enguarde.

Yes, but still working with Donkey Kong, he is the template for the rest of the characters.

[doomero]

New level.

[Simion32]

...that looks awesome! Multi-planar gameplay, finally!

I could learn a thing or two from your level designs.

[Phyreburnz]

Doomero, seriously, that is amazing as hell! I was taken aback by how marvelous your level design was! Absolutely fantastic! This is, by far, your most AMAZING AND TERRIFIC level yet!

[VideoViking]

There needs to be Hunters in that level! That is just crazy!

[Super Luigi!]

I agree with everyone else. doomero, that level was amazing. I'm sure we're all proud to have you as a fellow Atlasite!

[Cyclone]

That is your best level yet!

[doomero]

Thank you guys!!

That level was very funny to build.

Now the boss level of episode 1:



the ep 1 will contain 10 levels, i have 9, the number 10 is the secret level and the most terrific.

[Super Luigi!]

Once again, excellent job doomero! While I'm not sure what was happening to the music and sound effects, I enjoyed the boss fight itself. Also, I think your lighting effects in the castle are neat.

[doomero]

Once again, excellent job doomero! While I'm not sure what was happening to the music and sound effects, I enjoyed the boss fight itself. Also, I think your lighting effects in the castle are neat.

Is becuase i used the pan sound of kaptain krool and not king krool and maybe the sound of the crown is different....

[Simion32]

The sound volume fluctuates throughout the video (as DK moves around). Possibly a GZDoom level building issue?

[doomero]

New level, this is the secret map, only avaible if you found all the bonus koins.

[Super Luigi!]

I like the part where Kloak threw something. Very nice level, doomero. The trees are very shapely, and you used many different types of ghosts, such as Mini-Kackles, effectively.

[Cyclone]

Another great level from you! can't wait to play it.

[Qyzbud]

Looks very challenging, and the 'haunted forest' theme is a winner.

Interesting use of creepy/intense music from another Rare franchise of the SNES era.

[sonosublime]

Very impressive what you've done, and I can't wait to play it.

The main thing I've noticed is that your levels leave absolutely no room for error, which may drive away players.

[doomero]

Very impressive what you've done, and I can't wait to play it.

The main thing I've noticed is that your levels leave absolutely no room for error, which may drive away players.

I noticed various bugs, but are not critical.

[VideoViking]

Can you kill the Kloaks in the demo?

[doomero]

Can you kill the Kloaks in the demo?

I not coded the property for grab barrels for Donkey Kong, but i will.... and that mean kill Kloak with that.

[doomero]

A gameplay of episode 1, the mission: rescue Diddy. The progress of the demo is 80%.

For to do:

Include the property for grab barrels.
Include animal friends (Rambi, Enguarde, etc).
Fix bugs.

[VideoViking]

My major problem with the game is that the sound keeps dropping in and out. This is both background music and sound effects (I think).

Knowing that this uses the Doom engine, I wanted to ask if you know of any 3D artists. I'm still looking for someone to do my Hunters.

[doomero]

My major problem with the game is that the sound keeps dropping in and out. This is both background music and sound effects (I think).

Knowing that this uses the Doom engine, I wanted to ask if you know of any 3D artists. I'm still looking for someone to do my Hunters.

The sounds issue is a problem of the video converter. I know people using 3d models: is called cynertron he use a lot blender or 3d max.

[VideoViking]

Do you mean Cynertron or Cybertron? Also, does he have a website or artist account?

[doomero]

Enguarde =)

I am working with Rambi now, is a little complex, but possible.

another progress

[Super Luigi!]

Very nice indeed! I like how the Kudgel battle went, although I couldn't read the dialogue. Also, why does Enguarde get hurt when he swims into an enemy? Shouldn't he automatically defeat it? The Klubba battle was hilarious with your music choice! He seems to fight just like Kudgel though, which isn't inherently bad, just rather unexpected. I know they both look alike, but wouldn't Klubba be the tougher fighter? The follow-up K. Rool battle is nice and seems just like the one you showed us earlier. AND THEN MINECART! Oh, and now DK's suddenly been apenapped! Wait, Kaptain and K. Roolenstein? PLASMA TV?!? Strange things are happening here on DK Island! What will happen next?

[doomero]

Very nice indeed! I like how the Kudgel battle went, although I couldn't read the dialogue. Also, why does Enguarde get hurt when he swims into an enemy? Shouldn't he automatically defeat it? The Klubba battle was hilarious with your music choice! He seems to fight just like Kudgel though, which isn't inherently bad, just rather unexpected. I know they both look alike, but wouldn't Klubba be the tougher fighter? The follow-up K. Rool battle is nice and seems just like the one you showed us earlier. AND THEN MINECART! Oh, and now DK's suddenly been apenapped! Wait, Kaptain and K. Roolenstein? PLASMA TV?!? Strange things are happening here on DK Island! What will happen next?

The reason why appear the 3 Krools, is becuase dr Kroolestein create a time machine and that explain why appear all the enemies from the 3 DKC series. Also he explain the guy on the plasma tv (called "icon of sin")is the real enemy.

[Qyzbud]

Well done adding Enguarde, and scripting these boss battles — very impressive! I also like your idea of having Klubba defend K. Rool (if you don't pay up, of course!). If only his master knew how easily he is persuaded to step aside with a few shiny coins...

Definitely some impressive efforts going on, but there are a few things that really could stand to be improved.

Firstly, I've not heard any mention of the hit detection yet, but it seems as though this aspect of the engine could use a bit of work. I've no idea what ZDoom is like to work with when it comes to object interactions, but hopefully it wouldn't be too difficult to improve the way the engine registers a successful jump attack vs. being hit by the baddy, etc.

With regard to the graphics, everything kind of looks kind of stretched, blurry, and somewhat like how Rare's GBA ports did — low quality and washed-out. As I mentioned on chat, I've created a side by side comparison to show the degraded quality I see in the terrain/background graphics:

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• It looks to me as though the terrain graphics (spooky trees, etc.) are stretched to be considerably wider than they ought to be.
• I'm also seeing coloured bits on the spooky brown tree (especially near the bottom) that seem to be conversion/compression related.
• The tall, grey and black trees behind Kudgel look particularly low in quality — where did they originally come from?

Overall, I'm sure things would look better if the YouTube video wasn't so low in quality/resolution, but there must be a thing or two going on to degrade the graphics like that (in ZDoom, or whatever) before the video is even captured.

Also, others have mentioned the audio volume issues (as I did, back in January), so hopefully that can get straightened out, too.

Otherwise, there's lots of ingenuity and creativity going on here, so I've enjoyed watching this project evolve. Keep it up!

[doomero]

Like i said on the chat, that could be enhanced on gl options of gzdoom, you can choose the style of the textures and also i played with low resolution 640 x 480 and with format factory forced to 720 x 480 (that decrece more the quality).

[Rux Ton]

I watched through some of these and wow, at first i judged the idea to be off but when I watched through ... I am highly impressed! This is a REALLY great idea! And that secret level is really AWESOME!

My only complaint is the camera seems a bit weird maybe at times? And the physics seem a bit strange at times as well (But i know its apparently really hard to capture the actual physics from those games so I don't really mind at all )
I really want to play this bahah. Your level design, and style of graphic-usage in here makes the series have like an extra bit of dimension with the whole wrapping of textures thing. UGH this is SO neat! Keep it up man I wanna see more of this!

[doomero]

Into few days i will release the demo, only i need to include the life balloons and fix some bugs.....

[Rux Ton]

I can't wait!!

[doomero]

Ok, guys the demo was released =)

[spaceman2028]

Rad, i'll probably check it out sooner or later.

[Phyreburnz]

I'm having some problems with this.... first, there is no sound for me. I don't know why or how to fix that. Second, I don't know what controls are the y and b buttons. I don't see any options for those at all. I don't know what controls they should be. If you don't understand, I can take a screenshot of the controls options and show you.

*edit* I'm watching the video you posted for the demo and it looks like you have the animation of Necky backwards. If you got sprites from The Spriters Resource, they often times do not have the animations correct as far as the order goes.

[doomero]

I'm having some problems with this.... first, there is no sound for me. I don't know why or how to fix that. Second, I don't know what controls are the y and b buttons. I don't see any options for those at all. I don't know what controls they should be. If you don't understand, I can take a screenshot of the controls options and show you.

*edit* I'm watching the video you posted for the demo and it looks like you have the animation of Necky backwards. If you got sprites from The Spriters Resource, they often times do not have the animations correct as far as the order goes.

The buttons Y and B, ok, go to options, later to customize controls, you will see a list of buttons right? (like primary fire, secundary fire, etc), later press down, keep falling, and you will found the Y button and B button.

Later configure the crouch button, is called "back" is not the doom crouch button.
Forward button (is up for enguarde)
strafe left and strafe right (for move the character).

About the sound, is weird should work.
And yes, i used the Necky from sprites resource, this is a demo dude so the final version that thing could be fixed.

[Phyreburnz]

I'll take a screenshot later and show you what I mean. I'm not seeing b or y as an option.

*EDIT* never mind, I found it. Sorry about that. Still no sound, though... maybe I'll try it on windows xp instead of 8?

[spaceman2028]

The tall, grey and black trees behind Kudgel look particularly low in quality — where did they originally come from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ymNYwN9d4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ILKulH8ew0
Somehow i think those trees are either from Forest Frenzy or a part of the "Woods" levels in DKC2. Those spooky face trees, however, look certainly like something outta DKC2/DKC3.

[doomero]

I'll take a screenshot later and show you what I mean. I'm not seeing b or y as an option.

*EDIT* never mind, I found it. Sorry about that. Still no sound, though... maybe I'll try it on windows xp instead of 8?

Hmm could be, i don't know if gzdoom support windows 8.

[Goe]

Finally Kaptain K Rool and Baron K Roolenstein kidnapped Donkey. Are you planning a second game in that you must rescue Donkey?

[doomero]

Finally Kaptain K Rool and Baron K Roolenstein kidnapped Donkey. Are you planning a second game in that you must rescue Donkey?

Yes, Diddy will rescue Donkey.

[spaceman2028]

I'm just going to assume that will happen after this first part of the game is complete, and then afterwards the second half is diddy going to crocodile isle or the northern kemisphere to save DK from either Kaptain or Baron, and vice versa.

[Gaz]

I have a feeling that the game could use a little bit of cleanup. I suggest more fluid animations, speech bubbles (with specific character icons)? That's about all I can think of right now.

[doomero]

I'm just going to assume that will happen after this first part of the game is complete, and then afterwards the second half is diddy going to crocodile isle or the northern kemisphere to save DK from either Kaptain or Baron, and vice versa.

Hmm, well i am thinking what class of maps i will include later, but will be the 50% from dkc2 and the rest from dkc1 and dkc3.

[Goe]

OK then, doomero. I'll complete the first game and when you release the second, I'll download and complete it too. Good work

[Simion32]

I've evaluated the game using JoyToKey - the physics and control response are utter crap.

I got stuck on the Lava level because it's impossible to coordinate enough to be able to land on the crocs accurately enough to proceed.

Graphics look OK, but are too fuzzy when upscaled. I really thought this would be more playable when seeing the YouTube videos, but alas, I am yet again disappointed in the game having run aground due to poor playability.

As for level design, you certainly get 10/10 for great designs and effort. But... if only they were playable.

Graphics - 7/10
Music - 9/10 (Some Audio Issues)
Sfx - 7/10 (some programming errors in sfx playback, especially Barrel Cannons)
Physics/Controls - 3/10, very poor
Levels - 10/10 if it was actually playable.
Overall Rating: 6.4 of 10

[doomero]

Good evaluation, also the weak point of doom engine is the physis, i had the same problem with mortal kombat doom.

[sonosublime]

A problem I noticed is that the jumps require far too much precision. A big no-no of platform game design is making jumps that can only be made with absolutely no margin for error. Tweaking the levels a bit would make the game a lot more accessible.

[ParkerLewis]

Hi guys,

has there been any news on this project ? When I saw the video demoed a few months it seemed awesome, but no news since then.

Any progress ? Any idea if there are any ways for controls to be better (porting to another engine than doom ?)

Also, does anyone know where I could find the videos from when the demo was released ? All posted links seem dead.

Thanks

[BlueTronic]

Why isn't this called Doomkey Kong Country Doomo?